For those of you not acquainted with their work, Siskel and Ebert had a movie review show where they would break down every review to the overly-simplified "thumbs up" or "thumbs down." Sometimes they'd get crazy and give an "enthusiastic thumbs up" or a "thumb so far down it ended up in my own rectum." Those were wacky episodes, I assure you.
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| They're not the most attractive dudes, but the novelty of having one of their famous thumbs violate me is a little too hard to pass up. Source |
Allow me to explain how this relates in any way to the ruination of society.
We live in an age bereft of nuance. While I don't blame the late Gene Siskel or Roger Ebert for that, I do blame them for the distillation/devolvement of all opinion over subjective material to "great" or "sucks". It's a Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down world. It's all good or bad, no in-between.
Siskel and Ebert actually had really good, well thought out reviews filled with great detail, but then undercut themselves with their own thumbs. People would skip all that needless detail and get right to whether they approved or denounced a film with their damnable digits.
Don't trust anyone who speaks in absolutes. We should demand reasons and details. We should expect nuanced thought.
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| This is one of the images that came back when I Googled "Absolutes". It's a sculpture by Irish artist Alan Phelan called "Fragile Absolutes". It's so beautifully weird I had to include it even though it's apropos of nothing. Well, it is nuanced. There, that justifies it. Source. |
This is never more prescient than with the U.S. presidential election cycle. The process has devolved to the two candidates sloganeering (don't fool yourselves Libertarian or Green parties, you're lucky you're not in Guantanamo, like Ralph Nader...what, you haven't heard from him an a while, have you? Where did you think he went?). The debates might as well involve Jim Lehrer shooting fireworks out of his hairpiece while the candidates see who can chant "U-S-A" loudest while models in bikinis made of dollar bills wrestle in a kiddie pool filled with the tears of the poor and semen of the rich. A well-reasoned, non-pandering position on an issue in these debates is more rare than seeing a squirrel poop. (When was the last time you saw a squirrel poop? Yeah, that metaphor holds up.)
And because I love you, here's a hastily crafted picture of Jim Lehrer shooting fireworks out of his toupee:
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| Wow, he even remembered the sparklers! You're the greatest talking-head ever, Jim Lehrer. |
I am not immune to this. When I argue with my spouse, I inevitably devolve into "you always do ___". And that's not true. No one "always" does anything. This over-simplification is a way to undercut your opponent and put them on the defensive with no real basis to your own argument. It's something I admittedly need to work on.
There are no such thing as absolutes. It used to be "death and taxes are the only sure thing in this life" but we Wesley Snipes doesn't pay taxes and Keith Richards is inexplicably still alive. So tuck your thumbs away, kids, and tell us the merits of a piece of subjective art based on your informed opinion.
The over-simplification of the world sucks...Aww crap. Although, I think I got a good idea for a bumper sticker. Are people still putting bumper stickers on their cars other than those "coexist" things?
This borderline self-righteous post was inspired by the great, ever-insightful Sporkgasm! Here's a drawing I made of her (or "did to her") a while ago:




Hahah I agree. You can't even have a discussion with a member of the opposite political party because its so "thumbs up or down". It's shown now that when someone is confronted with an opposite political belief, not only are people not open minded, but they're more likely to believe more strongly in their original beliefs. Even if they've been proven incorrect. Like this:
ReplyDeletePerson A: I believe that children are created through glitter and wishing.
Person B: Actually, he's a load of scientific evidence widely accepted as true by essentially all the experts in the field
Person A: NO! NOW I BELIEVE IN GLITTER-AND-WISHING EVEN MORE! KEEP YOUR PROPAGANDA AWAY FROM ME!!
here's** a load of scientific evidence
DeleteOf course it's not glitter and wishing. Everyone knows that children are created with peyote and ritual sacrifice.
DeleteI think the problem stems from the media thinking that the majority of people don't want to have to think about complexities, they'd rather just be handed a tidy package wrapped in a single yes or no response. The problem is that the public has let the media get away with this. Rather then demanding information, they allow sound bites to determine their opinion.
ReplyDeleteHow many people got pissed off because of the Obama sound bite "...you didn't build that?" They didn't even take into consideration that it was a snippet out of context from a speech. I'm no Obama fan (nor am I a fan of Romney for that matter), but if you read or listened to whole speech, Obama is saying the exact same thing as Romney, for goodness sake! What Fox was trying to shove down everyone's throat was unmoral!
On top of that, because we are so entrenched in the thought that free speech equals "I'm right and you are so very wrong" mentality any difference of opinion is immediately regulated to an easily defensible fall-back position - usually related to one's religious upbringing.
Okay. I am going to stop now because I feel a rant coming on!!
Cheers!
Yeah, the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude I've read stems from a primal need for tribalism. So, any opposing thought that challenges our primitive monkey brains is a challenge to our tribe, thus forcing us to entrench ourselves in our belief system even more stubbornly.
DeleteI know I review things but I pretty much hate serious reviews. They never give enough detail or get to the heart of the matter. But Siskel and Eberts over simplification, well that I just find fun cause to me its like there parodying reviews with out even knowing it.
ReplyDeleteBut in the end at least they don't over simplify everything like on the cartoon "The Critic" where he always just says "It stinks!"... but then agian, they usually did...
PS Ralph Nader rules! Darn you Americans for not voting him in in 2000! You could have avoided Bush!!
I have nothing against reviewers, least of all you and your reviews, provided the review is substantive and well reasoned. I don't even mind the star system because that at least allows for nuance. Like a 3 star review lets me know it's not a great movie but there are enjoyable things about it.
DeleteAs for your last point, my political beliefs shall be withheld until such a time when "reasoned discussion" is the primary form of political discourse on the internet.
I understand what you're saying, but I happen to consider Siskel and Ebert to be modern American heroes. Why? They gave two thumbs up to Wayne's World, the greatest movie in the history of cinema! And anybody who likes that movie can never do anything wrong.
ReplyDeleteThank you! Absolutels shmabsolutes. Unless it's Vodka, then Absolut is okay.
ReplyDeleteI love you for using Siskel and Ebert. I remember their show fondly.
And I want to smash in to every car with the stupid Coexist stickers on them. I really do.
So what you're saying is that you don't like my Saturday Netflix review posts?
ReplyDeleteNOOOOO! This is NOT anti-review. You give reasoned explanations for your opinions, that's what I want MORE of.
DeleteI feel old for knowing who Siskel and Ebert are.
ReplyDeleteI don't know who Siskel and Ebert are.
ReplyDeleteBut I did notice that you said "when I argue with my SPOUSE"...still keeping us guessing, huh, Pickelope? Well played, well played.
"Sloganeering" = exactly. I miss the bald one's meltdowns more than his thumb. Just sayin.
ReplyDeleteI remember Siskel and Ebert's movie review show. I not only easily remember the thumbs Up and Thumbs Down gimmick they would use but also the truly vehement and ruthless arguments they would get into over a particular movie. It always seemed to me, that Ebert would always "seemingly" win the argument. I always wished that he, especially, would get a thumb or a crowbar shoved up his ass until his colon busted open. He had the louder mouth, for certain. Ironically, Ebert can hardly speak now because... well... I forget the reason, actually. You can fill me in, if you care enough to. It doesn't particularly matter to me, personally.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your later statements. Nothing should be talked about, whether it's opinions or "supposed facts" (since they've been shown to change quickly) in black and white terms. There are so many shades of grey to each controversy and each personality on this planet, it's mind-boggling.
It's true. the debates have turned into nothing but mud slinging, lies, misinformation about the opposing candidate. God forbid that someone actually talk about the issues that matter and further yet... Talk about those same issues with some type of plan in mind. The plan couldn't be absolute if it wanted to (if a plan could talk. :) That's because everything changes so fast in this country and in this world. Stereotyping people, important topics and putting things in black and white terms serves anyone with any good.
Back in the old suburbia boom of the 50's & 60's they predicted that modern technology would make life easier and give people more time, then with computers and 'the age of information' it was a common belief that we'd all have faster & more wide access to information, but it doesn't seem like society at large does much with it. Shouldn't it be easier, not harder, to have Lincoln-Douglas style debates now, with all this tech and access? Instead we get over-simplification & out of context soundbites. More talk about what a politicians work-out program is or their verbal stumbles than voting record and proposed policy. So in that vein, a movie worth seeing is Bob Roberts. I don't know if Siskel & Ebert ever weighed in with their thumbs on it, maybe they'd stopped reviewing by the time it came out.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm all for it- I could easily prefer hearing a well thought out evaluation than multiple hours of the same simple baseless opinion repeated 10,000 times.
I don't know why or how, but your post inspired a gift idea fro my brother, whose birthday is on Friday. I think it was the mention of bumper stickers. I can't tell you what I have decided to get him because then I'll jinx it all. Not that you care. You don't know my brother, do you?
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